The Cognitive Tradeoff Hypothesis S3 (Ep 1)

Am 5 Dez 2018 veröffentlicht
Humans are the only Earthlings with complex language. But at what cost was that ability acquired? In this episode, I visit Tetsuro Matsuzawa to learn about his influential cognitive tradeoff hypothesis.
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KOMMENTARE

  • I did not come from a monkey generation

  • People make fun of this guy, but he is frickin' smart

  • There is no evidence that chimps drove out humans out of the trees, and it seems odd that we could defend ourselves from lions and hyenas out on the plains but not chimps? It is funny that in this IQ test the chimps beat the humans, and it puts into perspective human IQ tests (and explains why some very high IQ people are unwise and often dumb as rocks in many aspects of human behavior). The conclusion that we are not better because we can speak is laughable when we look at the modern world, you have to be seriously ungrateful to come up with that.

  • Who noticed Dolan Dark at 12:41 ?

  • Wait, we don't need sky lab to preserve chimps. All chimps need to survive as a species is room to live. This is like the lies China sells everyone about panda conservation.

  • That is much less memory than the visual buffer

  • Is it really the memory or is it the vision that is important for the task shown at the start of the video. OK, after seeing Michael play around the by himself I can see the difference between the short term memory.

  • Почему дагестанец на превьюшке?

  • Wait how did the chimps learned the order of numbers?

  • Funny how the theory of how we were kicked from the trees is extremely similar to how "god" kicked us out of Eden.

  • i wish youtube premium was available in my country! what a show that is!

  • Intro music gave me the stranger things vibe.

  • when they go mainstream, they change. not a fan.

  • These monkeys were trained to do this. If I sit there for long enough, I would get as good I would imagine. If you look at high skill video game players, esports, speedrunners. there is a lot of instant reflex solving these puzzles their mind has to go through. I'm not fully convinced we lack this skillset at all, just that we are not very much trained for it in daily life.

  • こんな真面目そうなおっさんが裏では家をラーメンだらけにしたりいろんなものに卵を投げつけてると思うと草生える

  • Trade off hypothesis=fake news

  • I don't think this task gives us any measure of how much better a chimp is than a human... There's a great difference that comes with practice. would the chimp memorize the 9 numbers in 0.5 sec on his first day trying? Would Michael not be able to compete if he trained on this task for a long time each day?

  • Possibly there is something different about chimpanzee’s vision as well? I noticed that I couldn’t even see all the numbers within the half a second. Could the chimps see and distinguish all 9 objects because they have less accurate vision at the center of the eye, which allows for wider focal point?

  • How does the chip understand numerical order?

  • LO SCIMPANZE RIESCE FARLO ANCHE 3 MINUTI DOPO AVER VISTO I NUMERI ?

    • CAN THE SCIMPANZÉ DO IT ALSO THREE MINUTES AFTER HAVING SEEN THE NUMBERS?

  • Cant wait to DE-tv Red come here

  • 9:17 And think of it like this, if you have a group of something that can communicate, they don't need to think and have that good of short-term memory in the way of Chimps. You can have 5 different people all looking in different directions and each of them can speak to each other to tell everybody how many there are and this would be just as fast if not faster than the Chimp because the speed that each individual needs to only recognize 1 or 2 important targets is still more then enough.

  • Language combines thousands of years, billions of minds in to one. The ability to transfer knowledge is the backbone of human evolution.

  • We are losing that sharing idea as a society.

  • Absolutely love it!!!!

  • Ayumu, whose name means what?

  • I like to think primates thousands of years ago were problem solvers and found more ways to leave trees in spite of curiosity, not dominance. Like how in the video they repeatedly state that the chimps use short-term memory for quick responses, most likely used as an easy way out to escape danger. Whereas our ancestors typically could've taken challenges head-on, seeking to solve an underlying problem, hence our different feet with short toes and our body's build. I've also wondered where languages really took root whether in rudely name calling through hunger ravages or drawings of landscapes etched from personal tools. Nonetheless, this is all very interesting and I love to hear and see strides in the foundations of knowledge our probable numb skull ancestors ventured in.

  • This was fascinating. Thank you.

  • this moment 22:00 is deep

  • The only reason I got the DE-tv Premium free trial

  • so the reason monkeys won't turn into humans now is because some stayed in the trees... yeah you lost me there I'm out of here.

  • I'm wondering if a human was trained from birth to do these games how they would do. Certainly better, but how better. Kind of hard to figure that out though not really a good thing to put a kid through.

  • Weird how you couldn't beat the chimpanzee at a game he's been mastering his whole life.

  • I think it’s possible to beat it with a lot of training

  • This is pretty boring

  • Wait hold on... chimps know numbers now?

  • Ai was just being salty imo.

  • ¿Qué clase de Netflix es éste?

  • Can we not introduce a savant to the chimp?

  • I would like to see you make this an app. Some humans could do it

  • What's with all the arm-chair scientists in thus comment section lmao. Yall think you know so much...

  • Smart man talks about munkees

  • This content is worth every penny

  • Why aren't they talking about the fact that these animals understand sequential numbers? The memory speed test seems trivial compared to the fact that they understand numbers!!

  • The meme brought me here

  • This is an interesting theory and may very well be the reason we are developing things which allow us to offload certain things like speech (cell phones, etc) so we can evolve beyond this theorized limitation

  • Wait a reverse exorcism?

  • Wait a reverse exorcism

  • I wonder if a person who couldn't talk or write be able to get this kind of memory

  • Very interesting, but the way the guy is taking an interview is way too unnatural.

  • I have an IQ of 153 ... and Iwas only able to remember up to 4 numbers in the time of 0.5s ... But I still feel like humans could do it with alot of exercise.

  • Someone has probably already said this but the way this is presented ain't great. You have two variables that are being changed: 1) the training and 2) the species. Yadda, yadda yadda I would love to see how a human does at the task with the same amount of experience.

  • 19:41 Is it impossible though? Or he just needs a bit more training?

  • This is kinda bullshit. The humans are not getting equal time to practice as the chimps. I'm sure I could beat these monkeys if I did this dumb game all day everyday for a month like they do.

  • Theoretical Bullshit!!!

  • Or... we didnt come from monkeys...

  • It’s funny. You come with all of this from A “some how”. Hahaha. That’s a big some how my friend. And you use a “might had been”. If you take those words out of this. This means nothing my friend.

  • It might not be talking. It might be reading and writing. People who can write have much poorer memories than people who are not literate, because we can keep records instead of relying on our memories. Have the experimenters tried this experiment on pre-literate tribal people? They might be surprised by the result.

  • Id felt that it's hard to balance a "go with the flow; live in the moment" mindset and the planning of one's future. Interesting hypothesis.

  • what i would like to know, is, what is the best that a human could get at this game, with practice? i've heard of how good some chimpanzees are at this game before, but I have not yet seen a human do it, who has had a lot of practice, like the chimpanzees get.

  • Bullshit. It's not impossible to do the memory tests. Humans just need training that's all. The human mind is capable of anything. Curious to know why he didn't disclose how the chimps knew how to count in the first place... and why didn't he use a savant to compete with the chimp.

  • me encanto, es el primer vídeo de casi media hora que termino de ver. :)

  • Dude.... it's Brain RAM. Random Access Memory. We're using a lot of RAM just for language, writing, and everything else modern of today.

  • This proves chimpanzees have a (short term?) photographic memory, however nothing I saw here supports the cognitive-tradeoff-hypothesis

  • They should try this test on young children who have not developed language yet and see how they perform.

  • they're good because their life depends on it, they're on survival mood, food!

  • 0:55 I managed to mess that up somehow

  • 7:13 Whaaa

  • Oooo the monkey can remember fast.....who cares

  • Anyone else feels that with enough practice it is doable but they're exaggerating that it can't be done by humans?

  • Primate apologist. How difficult would this game be if you, or any of your viewers, practiced this game every day for six months, and the complexity and speed correlated with accumulated success? The proposition of dropping an individual into unfamiliar territory, and comparing their inferiority to an expert in the field as an argument, makes a poor argument, even when the expert is a trained chimpanzee. Every sort of neural "hard-wiring" is possible when associated with survival, and practiced.

  • 2:17 if language is so good, why there isn't a language 2?

  • I had no problem doing what the chimps did but I was surprised when other people couldn't. This can only mean one thing.... I am a chimp.

  • musicName? intr0

  • wow non payable vdo.video;o

  • Dislike. Because you have to pay to watch Vsauce.

  • I’m only 2 mins in and my theory for the video: We all have 6 senses, the sixth being your sixth sense, and he rest is the obvious sight, taste and all that. If you didn’t know, if you take away one of those senses, the other get stronger, that’s why people sometimes close their eyes when eating food so their taste it 2x as better. You can test this by sitting and watching tv but close your eyes and notice how the sound from the TV has slightly changed. You can also spin around with your eyes closed and try and guess where your tv is. So I’m thinking for the rest of this video, chimpanzees have way better eye sight as they can’t speak which is basically the sense of taste.

  • incredible episode

  • I think the reason why ayumu is so good at the test is because he do it repeatedly, that is why ayumu had the advantage, Micheal did it for the first time that is why he loss, but overtime i think its possible for Micheal to improve.The test on humans vs chimp must have been done so long ago.

  • Amazing Michael

  • Turn this into logical sense; 'My name is Michael is my middle name which is my surname' .

  • So cute!!!!! >~

  • What happens if you take a human baby and never talk to him/her or teach them any language?

  • You’ve been gone for too long, Michael.

  • Plz let me know if you find this online

  • I wanna try this online ma duds

  • BEST SHOW EVER

  • Humans are not animals. The evolution theory is fake

  • This is amazing people are complaining just stop being little children this was such a great video and look at it scientifically look at how important these things are and he is shedding light onto it and making great videos

  • como si el humano descendiera del mono

  • Loved this

  • 19:33 :D:D:D very human performance under stress

  • youtube premium is not available in my country so thx michael

  • Wow I love Chimpanzees!❤️❤️❤️ and all the work that they are doing with them!

  • Here Michael vsause hey, or is it?

  • To perform at same speed as chimp - there must be 9 Michaels, sharing one task together! Each of 9 Michaels must remember position of his number. Each of 9 Michaels must touch screen in queued order. Otherwise it's like trying to outrun cheetah or outswim dolphin \(o.o)

  • Mind field is the only and probably will be the only DE-tv Red Series I payed for. It's worth it.

  • Спасибо Ютубу что могу смотреть иностранные видео с переведенными титрами, команда Vsauce-- молодцы

  • Incredible

  • dope stuff m8